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ggk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 12:55 am    Post subject: amp warmup problem Reply with quote

Hi,
just experiencing new problem with my laney VHR100 and honestly I don't know what to do. It happens that, when I warmup my amp, power + standby, took at least 15 minutes to start playing. I tryied to replace my power tubes with a new quartet...It worked fine for 3 days and then the same problem happened. What it could be? During the 15minutes of "warmup session", if I plug in my tele custom and if I push the volume at its maximum value I can hear a weak and ultradistorted signal then the signal become slowly higher and cleaner and after 15 minutes the sound is ok and I can start playing... I never had this kind of problem before and I don't know what it could be. any idea? hints?

thanks in advance for your help
ggk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:29 am    Post subject: warm up time taking way too long ??? try this ! Reply with quote

It could very well be the tension on the individual pin sockets. Try carefully pushing each one towards it's own center. I also employ a high grade high conductance grease, ( very very small amount ) to the pins of all my tubes before I install them. Power amp tubes have thick heavy guage pins and if you push in your tubes in a crooked fashion you may create this problem. This can also occur if you swap tubes a lot. The tube pins themselves can become scored and burred but you said you tried a new quartet so I'd suggest you have a close and carefull look at the sockets first.

Try that and let us know what the results are.

Craig
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TimC also mentioned this fix in the thread "best tube"

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ggk
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
I tryied to check the pins during the problem I've had with a broken valve. I've also used a quartet of GT EL34 (pins are bigger) and I've had the same problem. I don't really know what it could be...valve seems to be hot anyway...
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TimC
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gg, how old is this amp? Just to be sure, try a new phase inverter tube. It sounds like some component is failing. When it fails completely, it should be easy to find.
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ggk
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim, it's only 10months old...
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TimC
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gg, this sounds like a problem that would be covered under warranty if Laney has one. Of course if you've done any mods to the amp, you're probably not covered by warranty anymore.
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ggk
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tim,
I did not modify nothing on this amp at the moment...the real problem to bring it back to a Laney authorized dealer is all about the time I will be without an amp in this period...I have a couple of important gigs in a few week, so the better solution to play with my complete set-up (you know I usually use two amps, this laney and a marshall) is to try to fix it by myself...I'll soon try to change the phase inverter valve, then see what happens.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gg, I wish we lived closer to each other. I've got an amp to loan you. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2003 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fixed...I hate delayed fuses....
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