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owwdatune
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:05 am    Post subject: Race... Reply with quote

> PROUD TO BE WHITE???
>
> Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs
> Seinfeld does
> make a good point
>
> I have been wondering about why Whites are
> racists, and no other race is.
>
> 'Proud to be White'
> ..........Michael Richards makes his point...
>
>
> This was his defense speech in court after making
> racial comments in his comedy act.
> He makes some very interesting points...
>
> Someone finally said it... How many are actually
> paying attention
> to this?
> There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
> Asian Americans,
> Arab
> Americans, etc. And then there are just
> Americans. You pass me on
> the
> street and sneer in my direction. You call me
> 'White boy,'
> 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,'
> 'Caveman'
>
> ... and that's OK.
>
> But when I call you, *African American*, Kike, Towel head,
> Sand-*African American*, Camel
> Jockey, Beaner,
> *Person of Asian Descent*, or *Person of Asian Descent* ... You call me a racist. You say
> that whites
> commit a lot of
> violence against you... so why are the ghettos
> the most dangerous
> places to live?
>
> You have the United Negro College Fund. You have
> Martin Luther
> King Day.
> You have Black History Month. You have Cesar
> Chavez Day. You have
> Yom Hashoah.
> You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP.
> You have BET...
> If we had WET (White Entertainment Television)
> we'd be racists.
> If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us
> racists.
> If we had White History Month, we'd be
> racists.
>
> If we had any organization for only whites to
> 'advance' OUR lives
> we'd be racists.
>
> We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black
> Chamber of
> Commerce, and
> then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
>
> Wonder who pays for that??
>
> A white woman could not be in the Miss Black
> American pageant, but
> any color
> can be in and win the Miss America pageant.
>
> If we had a college fund that only gave white
> students
> scholarships...You
> know we'd be racists.
>
> There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black
> Colleges in the US .
>
> Yet if there were 'White colleges', that
> would be a racist
> college.
>
> In the Million Man March, you believed that you
> were marching for
> your race and rights.
>
> If we marched for our race and rights, you would
> call us racists.
>
> You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and
> orange, and you're
> not afraid to announce it.
>
> But when we announce our white pride, you call us
> racists.
>
> You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But,
> when a white police
> officer
> shoots a black gang member or beats up a black
> drug-dealer running
> from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him
> a racist.
>
> I am white and I am proud...But you call me a racist.
>
> Why is it that only whites can be racists??

>
>............. so who will discuss this with someone else???
>
> sadly I don't think many will. That's why
> we have lost most of OUR rights in this country.
>
> We won't stand up for ourselves !
>
> BE PROUD TO BE WHITE !
It's not a crime yet, but getting real close!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try not to be racist ....but there are times when everyday life tends to get you to lean in that direction...regardless of race....i was born in Kenya..both my parents are white from the USA working professionally in Africa..i am more "African" by birth than any of the blacks i know here in the states..i am truely an "Afro American"..yet to all of color here i am still a 'honkey white boy' in regards to my outward apperance.....kinda funny how humans catagorize life into black-white...when there are so many shades of gray ----we should all be proud of our respective race & respect the race of others......its the individuals that mess things up Exclamation Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funny - I kind of look at it from the opposite direction.

I don't think any race deserves to be celebrated or respected.
Only on an individual level would I consider respecting someone, regardless
of their race, or religion, economic status, nationality, or whatever.
Quality of the individual character - thats the only thing that SHOULD matter.

But then again, I'm not a fan of the human race as a whole Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And by the way, over at Fender talk we can't even bring up politics -
And over here, the moderator brings up race!

Just goes to show, amp people are more thoughtful and laid back
then those guitar / Fender type people Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everything the Richards said is correct..........
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw001_tw wrote:
And by the way, over at Fender talk we can't even bring up politics -
And over here, the moderator brings up race!
Just goes to show, amp people are more thoughtful and laid back
then those guitar / Fender type people Wink


YEAH....ya gotta watch those fender type people ----they're almost as bad as those gibson-ites !!!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tw001_tw wrote:
funny - I kind of look at it from the opposite direction.

I don't think any race deserves to be celebrated or respected.
Only on an individual level would I consider respecting someone, regardless
of their race, or religion, economic status, nationality, or whatever.
Quality of the individual character - thats the only thing that SHOULD matter.

But then again, I'm not a fan of the human race as a whole Rolling Eyes


i'm not advocating respect of the individual due to ones race.....i'm saying we should not DISrespect the individual due to their race Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

firedude wrote:
Everything the Richards said is correct..........


that is correct sir. Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

owwdatune wrote:
tw001_tw wrote:
funny - I kind of look at it from the opposite direction.

I don't think any race deserves to be celebrated or respected.
Only on an individual level would I consider respecting someone, regardless
of their race, or religion, economic status, nationality, or whatever.
Quality of the individual character - thats the only thing that SHOULD matter.

But then again, I'm not a fan of the human race as a whole Rolling Eyes


i'm not advocating respect of the individual due to ones race.....i'm saying we should not DISrespect the individual due to their race Cool


I 100% agree - now its not that hard, is it? Whats wrong with everyone else? Rolling Eyes


p.s - Hey firedude! been a while. Things going ok with you down there?
Alls pretty normal up here.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello T-dub, yep, all is well down here. The weather's finally cooling down a bit. Well it's all relative, high temps in the mid to high 80's. That's early fall for us. :lol:
Did you family in Houston make out OK?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes.. no... not at all. They lost everything. When we talked they were
waiting around for their insurance check deciding if they were going
to rebuild or move..... I think I'd move.

the weather is cooling off very nice for us up here (FINALLY), its even nicely
chilly in the evenings Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question ya'll seem kinda tough here. ok. no problem! i'm just an american fellas----little bit of this and that! got my feet wet in the bayous and sand in my toes on the west coast, a little time on tobbacco road and born in the midwest. here is just where i happen to be at this moment. peace
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

owwdatune wrote:
tw001_tw wrote:
And by the way, over at Fender talk we can't even bring up politics -
And over here, the moderator brings up race!
Just goes to show, amp people are more thoughtful and laid back
then those guitar / Fender type people Wink


YEAH....ya gotta watch those fender type people ----they're almost as bad as those gibson-ites !!!!! Cool


But the Guild-ies (LTG) are Special !!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carvinites are the worst!

... and I should know, I own 5 of them. Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do believe it's time for some group counseling.

Hi
My Name's Jim
And I own a Fender.
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